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PRAGMA Podcast with Rob West, Founder, Thunder Said Energy

05/05/2025

Amy Miller, CEO of PRAGMA sat down in front of a live audience with Rob West, Founder and Chief Analyst at Thunder Said Energy.

There is a shift in perspective that is gaining ground, that unleashing better energy is likely to deliver the best human outcomes through 2050. This means vastly more energy, at a lower cost, to unlock new possibilities (including AI), and to mitigate the consequences of inevitable climate change (rather than pretending we can stop climate change). This is a total departure from the decarbonization movement's 2019-21 consensus, that the best human outcomes would be achieved by limiting energy use, for example by targeting c20% lower global energy use by 2050.  This was the key topic of discussion in the latest podcast from PRAGMA.

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